PART TWO

 

The Secondary Line - 1870 to 2000

 

This is the third of three sections of Part Two of the Collett family line

 

Updated October 2011

 

The information in a previous update was been kindly provided by Hilary Collett (Ref. 2S44)

 

Some past information has been kindly provided by

Brian Prescott (Ref. 2R33) of Lowton near Warrington

and Bob Collett (Ref. 2R10) of Australia

 

Earlier information was also received from Bob Collett in Australia,

Andy Collett (Ref. 2S6) of Solihull and his Australian cousin Karen Rowan (Ref. 2S7),

from Reg and Patricia Harvey (Ref. 2Q83) of Somerset, and

from Hilary Collett (Ref. 2S44) of Basingstoke in Hampshire

 

 

2P1

William John Collett was born at 22 Cromwell Street in Swindon on 17.01.1870.  By the time of the census on the second of April in 1871 William’s parents were sharing a terraced house at 22 Cromwell Street in Swindon with the Hardiman family.  William’s father was employed by the GWR as was William Hardiman.

 

 

 

The census simply recorded that William J Collett was born in Swindon and that he was one year old.  Ten years later his family had moved and was then living at 7 Bath Street in April 1881, where William was eleven and attending the GWR School in the railway village, as that area of Swindon was called.

 

 

 

He later attended the New Swindon Mechanics Institution Evening Classes and was awarded a prize in December 1884 presented by W. Dean.  This was a leather-bound Webster’s Dictionary which was handed down through the generations to Brian Collett born in 1946 and the compiler of this family history website.

 

 

 

His occupation was that of carpenter with the Great Western Railway prior to his death three months before he reached his twentieth birthday.  He died at 7 Bath Street in Swindon on 29.10.1889, the cause of death being recorded as typhoid.

 

 

 

New information has come to light that may suggest William followed in his father’s footsteps by joining the navy and served on board HMS Endeavour in the years between 1885 and 1889.  It may therefore be that on a trip overseas he contracted the illness which eventually killed him.

 

 

 

 

2P2

Albert Henry Collett was born at 22 Cromwell Street in Swindon on 03.09.1872.  At the start of the next decade his family moved into new accommodation at 7 Bath Street in Swindon which was provided by the GWR with whom his father was employed. 

 

 

 

The census in 1881 confirmed that Albert was eight years old and that he was living with his family at 7 Bath Street.  No record of Albert has been found anywhere in the census of 1891 and this may coincide with the stories within the family that he was a sailor like his father.

 

 

 

In 1900 Albert married Rosina A Lewis.  This very likely took place in Gloucester where Rosina said she was born in 1877.  The couple initially lived in the Kingsholm district of Gloucester St Marks, and it was there at 49 Sherborne Street that they were recorded as visitors in the March census of 1901.

 

 

 

This was the home of twenty-six years old widow Emily Newman who was a labeller in jam making.  Albert was described as 28 and a blacksmith from Swindon.  His wife Rosina was 23 from Gloucester, and also staying at the house with them was the widow Ann Daniels who was 43 and from Nantiglow in Monmouthshire.  Ann is believed to be the mother of Rosina Lewis.

 

 

 

Over the next ten years Rosina presented her husband with five children, the first three of which were born while the couple was still living in Gloucester.  By 1907 the family had moved to Wales and it was at 23 Dolphin Street in Newport in Monmouthshire that William and Rosina were living in April 1911.

 

 

 

The census return recorded that the couple had been married for eleven years and that Albert Henry Collett from Swindon was 38 and a dock warehouseman.  Rosina was 33, and their five children were Violet 10, Ella 8, Mervyn 6, William who was 4, and Arthur who was two years old.

 

 

 

In August 2000 Donna Collett provided the following information.  Her grandfather was Bertie Collett married to Pearl Davies who married Albert Collett (below).  Her father was Paul Collett and he had siblings Bertie, Georgie, Anna, Cathy and Christine, all of whom were from Newport.  An attempt to make contact with Donna’s father in 2000 failed, as he did not wish to discuss any aspect of his family’s past life.

 

 

 

However, thanks to new information received in June 2006 from Andrew (Andy) Collett in England and his cousin Karen Rowan (daughter of Patricia Collett) of Australia, a clearer picture of this family has emerged.

 

 

 

Albert Henry Collett, who was born at 22 Cromwell Street in Swindon on 03.09.1872 was a sailor at sometime in his life, possibly during the Great War, judging by his age in this photograph which is an extract from a larger photograph in which Albert was flanked by his mother Caroline Ruth Collett and his wife Rosina Collett.

 

In 1899 or 1900 he married Rosina A Lewis who was born at Stroud in 1877 and was the daughter of brewer’s labourer John Lewis and his wife Sarah A Lewis, both of Stroud.

 

Apart from the first three children who were born in Gloucester (as revealed by the census of 1911), all of the couple’s other five children were born after the family had moved to Newport.

 

 

 

Albert is known to have spent sometime in Gloucester Gaol and this most likely happened around 1906.  The story within the family suggests that he made his escape from the prison and fled to South Wales. 

 

 

 

The family story also includes the fact that Rosina and her three children at that time walked the entire journey from Gloucester to Newport to be with her fugitive husband.

 

 

 

It was perhaps this episode in his life that resulted in Albert severing all ties with his Swindon family and it was this that was the reason why it was so difficult to trace him and his family, until this new information about his life has come to light.

 

 

 

2Q1

Violet Collett

Born in 1901

 

2Q2

Ella Collett

Born in 1903

 

2Q3

Mervyn Collett

Born in 1905

 

2Q4

William Collett

Born in 1907

 

2Q5

Arthur Collett

Born on 28.05.1909

 

2Q6

Lewis George Collett

Born on 15.07.1911

 

2Q7

Nora Collett

Born on 13.06.1913

 

2Q8

Albert Collett

Born in 1915

 

 

 

 

2P3

Elizabeth Annie Collett, who was referred to as Lizzie by the family, was born at 22 Cromwell Street in Swindon between January and March 1874.  By 1881 the family was living at 7 Bath Street in New Town Swindon where Elizabeth was seven years old.  In between the family had lived for a five years at 16 Exeter Street.

 

 

 

Ten years later Elizabeth A Collett from Swindon was living and working in the Edmonton district of London, although she gave her age as being eighteen.  Towards the end of the century Elizabeth returned to Swindon where she married Frederick Henry Taylor of Swindon where the first of their three known children was born just after the start of the new century.

 

 

 

The young family initially lived with Elizabeth’s widowed mother Caroline Collett at 7 Bath Street, and it was there that the three of them were listed in the census of 1901.  Elizabeth Taylor was 27, as was her husband Frederick who was employed by the GWR as a railway carriage fitter.  With the couple was their eleven months old son William F H Taylor.

 

 

 

Within the next ten years a further two children were added to the family, which by April 1911, had moved from 7 Bath Street to 13 Morse Street in Swindon.  The census that year recorded the family as Frederick Henry Taylor 36, Elizabeth Annie Taylor 36, William Frederick Henry Taylor 11, Frederick Maurice Taylor 8, and Arthur George Taylor who was three.

 

 

 

At that same time Elizabeth’s mother Caroline was living with Lizzie’s brother Maurice, but shortly after he and his family moved to Lancashire following which Caroline moved in with the Taylor family where she remained until her death in 1929.

 

 

 

Lizzie’s and Frederick’s second son Frederick Taylor later became the Headmaster of Gorse Hill Junior School in Swindon sometime during the middle of the twentieth century.

 

 

 

 

2P4

Caroline Ruth Collett, referred to as Carrie by the family, was born at 16 Exeter Street in Swindon between July and September 1876, although by April 1881 the family was living at 7 Bath Street where Caroline was four years old.

 

 

 

Ten years later when Caroline was fourteen she was the oldest of the eleven children of William Collett and Caroline Ruth Watts still living in the family home at 7 Bath Street in Swindon.  By that time her father had died two years earlier, so Caroline was supporting her widowed mother looking after the younger members of the family.

 

 

 

According to the Swindon census of 1901, Caroline was twenty-four and was still unmarried and was still living with her mother at 7 Bath Street.  Her occupation at that time was recorded as being a tailoress like her younger sister Nellie with whom she probably worked.

 

 

 

It would appear that she married Frederick Hood about seven years later, sometime around 1908 or 1909.  Once married the couple lived at 14 Southbrook Street in Swindon where their only daughter was born.

 

 

 

In April 1911 the Swindon family comprised Frederick J Hood who was 39, his wife Caroline R Hood who was 34, and their one year old daughter Edith M Hood.

 

 

 

Their daughter, who was known as Eddy, married Rex Franklyn and they lived in the house next door to her parents in Southbrook Street.  Caroline and Frederick later moved to Box near Minchinhampton which, curiously enough, was where her mother Caroline Ruth Collett nee Watts was born.

 

 

 

 

2P5

HARRY JAMES COLLETT was born at 16 Exeter Street in Swindon on 09.01.1879.  Shortly after he was born his father William Collett changed his job and the family moved into a terraced house provided by the Great Western Railway at 7 Bath Street in the Railway Village of Swindon New Town.

 

This was confirmed by the census of 1881 when Harry was incorrectly listed as Henry Collett aged two years.  Seven years later when Harry when nine years old his father died, so by 1891 Harry was 12 and was still living at 7 Bath Street with his widowed mother and his some of his brothers and sisters.

 

His two older brothers had left home by then leaving Harry as the eldest male.

 

 

 

In order to retain the GWR living accommodation Harry’s mother Caroline was working for the GWR in 1891.  However, with her advancing years it was incumbent on Harry to secure employment with the company when he left school a few years later in order to retain their home.

 

 

 

By March 1901 he had completed his apprenticeship and the census that year listed him as Harry J Collett aged 22 who was working for the GWR as a railway engine boiler-smith, while living with his mother and family at 7 Bath Street.  Also by that time two of his younger brothers were serving their apprenticeships with the railway company.

 

 

 

Towards the end of the next decade Harry met his future wife Alice Louisa Collett of Siddington near Cirencester who was working in domestic service in Swindon.

 

 

 

He married ALICE LOUISA COLLETT (Ref. 1P33) on 13.03.1909 at St Mark's Church in Swindon. 

 

 

 

Almost exactly one year later the April census of 1911 placed Harry and Alice living at 7 Bathampton Street (formerly 7 Bath Street), his mother having moved out to live with Harry’s younger brother Maurice in Swindon.

 

 

 

The census return confirmed that the couple had been married for two years, and living with them was the first of their eight children.  Harry James Collett was 32 and a boiler-maker working in the GWR Locomotive Department of the GWR, Alice Louisa was 30 and from Siddington, and their son William Henry John was one year old.

 

 

 

The photograph above was taken before he became a married man, but for the occasion of his wedding he took to having a moustache which he retained for the rest of his life.

 

 

 

For more details about Harry and his family go to Part 1 – The Main Line 1880 to 1920

starting with his wife Alice Louisa Collett (Ref. 1P33)

 

 

 

 

2P6

Ella Agnes Collett was one of twins born at 7 Bath Street in Swindon in January 1881.  She was recorded as being three months old in the Swindon census of 1881 but tragically died later that same year, sometime between October and December.

 

 

 

 

2P7

Nellie Winifred Collett, who was referred to as Nell by the family, was one half of a set of twins born at 7 Bath Street in Swindon in January 1881.  In the census that year she was recorded as Nelley W Collett aged three months.

 

Her father William Collett died when she was just seven years old, following which she continued to live at 7 Bath Street with the rest of her family for the next eighteen years.  However, rather strangely when she would have been ten, she was not recorded with her family in the census return for 1891.  Where she was at this time has not been discovered.

 

 

 

How long she was absent is not known, but Nellie W Collett aged twenty was back living with her family at 7 Bath Street in March 1901.  At this time in her life she was unmarried and was working with her older sister Caroline as a tailoress.

 

 

 

Just five years later Nellie married housepainter Edward Bizley in Swindon and the wedding is believed to have taken place around 1906.  Edward was born in Swindon in 1876 and was the son of William Bizley of South Marston and his wife Elizabeth Bizley of Bampton in Oxfordshire. 

 

 

 

In 1881 Edward, who was later more commonly known as Duke Bizley, was five years old and was living at Hyde Cottages in Highworth with his agricultural labourer father and the rest of his family.

 

 

 

Over the next few years the marriage produced three children for the couple.  The photograph above was taken shortly after the birth of their son.

 

 

 

All three of their children were previously thought to have been born before the census of 1911.  However, the census return completed in early April that year disproves this theory, since the only child living with Nellie was their daughter Ella who was named after Nellie’s twin sister who died at 3 months.

 

 

 

The census confirmed that Nellie Winifred Bizley was 30, her husband Edward Bizley was 34, and their daughter Ella Winifred Bizley was two years old.  It therefore seems highly likely that Nellie was with-child on that day and that shortly after she presented her husband with the couple’s second child.

 

 

 

2Q9

Ella Winifred Bizley

Born in 1908

 

2Q10

Edward Bizley

Born in 1911

 

2Q11

Nora Bizley

Born in 1913

 

 

 

 

2P8

Arthur Stephen Alan Collett was born at 7 Bath Street in Swindon on 02.10.1882 where he was still living in 1891 at the age of eight with his widowed mother following the death of his father William Collett when Arthur was five.

 

By 1901, when he was nineteen, Arthur was a sapper with the Royal Engineers and was in barracks in Kent.  Shortly after March 1901 it is understood that Arthur sailed to South Africa where he took part in the final phase of the Boer War, during which he obtained the rank of staff sergeant.

 

The Treaty of Vereeniging was signed in 1902 and this put an end to the unpopular ‘scorched earth’ policy employed by Lord Kitchener which was used to destroy Boer farms and move the civilian occupants into concentration camps.

 

 

 

Arthur continued to live in Pretoria for a few years after the end of the hostilities, perhaps in a peace-keeping capacity, and returned to England around 1906.  He was still in the army by April 1911 and was once again billeted in the Elham area of Kent. 

 

 

 

It seems very likely that he was de-mobbed just after 1911 when he returned to Swindon, where he took up employment with the Great Western Railway as a boiler-smith, like many of his brothers.  He continued to work for the GWR until 1916 when he became a married man at the age of thirty-four.

 

 

 

Around this time Arthur was offered a new job with the Vickers Aircraft Company in Sheffield, having already met his future wife Mary Maud Bigwood of Devizes.  The couple then moved to Sheffield where they were married on 02.02.1916.

 

 

 

Mary was born at Devizes on 09.10.1889 and the couple’s first child was born at Devizes almost exactly one year after their wedding, even though they had made a permanent move to Sheffield by that time.  It can perhaps be assumed that Mary was either just visiting her mother or that she was unwell nearing the end of her pregnancy and was being cared for by her mother. 

 

 

 

All of the remaining children were born at Sheffield, where Arthur died on 05.12.1949, followed by Mary fifteen years later on 06.10.1964.

 

 

 

2Q12

Ruby Lillian Maud Collett

Born on 09.02.1917

 

2Q13

Nellie Louise Collett

Born on 18.11.1919

 

2Q14

Arthur William Henry Collett

Born on 16.10.1921

 

2Q15

Charles Fredrick Collett

Born on 12.11.1923

 

2Q16

Glenna Collett

Born on 11.07.1925

 

2Q17

Mervyn Collett

Born on 12.07.1928

 

2Q18

Patricia Mary Collett

Born on 24.09.1930

 

 

 

 

2P9

Maurice Edward Collett was born at 7 Bath Street in Swindon on 08.01.1885 and was only three and a half years old when his father died during the summer of 1888.                                     This photograph of Maurice was taken around 1909.

 

By the time of the census of 1891 Maurice and his family were still living at the house at 7 Bath Street which was rented to them by the Great Western Railway.  The census that year recorded him in error as Morris E Collett aged six years.

 

Ten years later in March 1901 he was still living there aged sixteen, but by then he was employed by the GWR as an apprenticed boiler-smith.

 

 

 

Around eight years later in 1909 Maurice married Florence Beatrice White from Frome in Somerset, with whom he had eight children.  For the first five years of their married life together Maurice and Florence lived at 14 Stanier Street in Swindon, where they were recorded in the census of 1911.

 

 

 

The census that year stated that the couple had been married for two years, so it would appear that the wedding took place only a few months before the birth of their first child who was listed as being two years old.

 

 

 

The full census return recorded the family as Maurice Edward Collett 26 of Swindon who was by then a fully fledged boiler-smith with the GWR, his wife Florence 27 of Frome, and their first two children Ella who was two and Edward who was just two weeks old.

 

 

 

It seems very likely that the birth of the couple’s two-week old son had not been registered by the time of the census, since it was subsequently changed to Reginald Maurice Collett.

 

 

 

Also living with the family at this time on second April 1911 was Maurice’s widowed mother Caroline Collett who had given up her GWR supplied family home at 7 Bathampton Street to Maurice’s older brother Harry James Collett (a GWR employee) and his young family.

 

 

 

Almost exactly two year later Florence presented Maurice with the couple’s third child while they were still living at 14 Stanier Street.  However, sometime after, either in 1914 or early in 1915, Maurice’s work took him from Swindon to Lancashire where the family took up residence at 1 London Row, Vulcan Village, in Newton-le-Willows, where a further five children were born.

 

 

 

In 1931 Maurice and his family made their final move when they went to live at 426 Wargrave Road in Newton-le-Willows, and it was there twenty-three years later that Maurice died on 24.03.1954. 

 

 

 

Florence had died nineteen months before Maurice, when she passed away at Newton-le-Willows on 29.08.1952. 

 

 

 

Florence was born at Innox Hill in Frome on 19.11.1883 the daughter of Frank and Martha White who were also born in Frome.  By 1891 they had left the Somerset town and moved to Swindon where in 1901 Martha White was 49 and Frank, who was 45, was working for the Great Western Railway as an engine painter.  At that time 17 years old Florence B White was employed as a cloth machinist.

 

 

 

2Q19

Ella Florence Collett

Born on 30.03.1909

 

2Q20

Reginald Maurice Collett

Born on 15.03.1911

 

2Q21

Frederick Arthur Collett

Born on 09.03.1913

 

2Q22

Percival Francis Collett

Born on 17.06.1915

 

2Q23

Bertram William Collett

Born on 21.09.1918

 

2Q24

Ethel May Collett

Born on 15.11.1920

 

2Q25

Lily Cecilia Collett

Born on 07.09.1923

 

2Q26

Mervyn Albert Collett

Born on 20.02.1926

 

 

 

 

2P10

Percy Ethelbert Collett was born at 7 Bath Street in Swindon on 02.06.1886. 

 

By the time of the census of 1891 his father had been dead for almost three years, although Percy aged four and his family continued to live at 7 Bath Street which was provided by the Great Western Railway for whom his father had worked.

 

Ten years later at the age of fourteen Percy had left school and was employed by the GWR with whom he was an apprenticed iron moulder.

 

 

 

On completion of his apprenticeship Percy left Swindon and joined the army and by April 1911 he was billeted at Plymouth.

 

 

 

The census that year simply recorded him as Percy Collett aged 24 from Swindon who was unmarried and was serving with the military in Plymouth.  The move to Plymouth became a permanent one, as it was there that Percy lived for the rest of his life.

 

 

 

Just less than eight years later he married Florence May Gabriel of South View, Seymour Road, Mannamead in Plymouth on 18.01.1919 and their only son was also born at Plymouth.  In their early years, the couple lived at 4 Penny-cum-Quick in Plymouth before moving to 6 Central Park Drive in Plymouth.

 

 

 

Percy died at Plymouth on 05.08.1952 and was followed seventeen years after by Florence, who died there on 09.07.1969. 

 

 

 

Florence May Gabriel was born at Child Okeford near Blandford Forum in Dorset on 10.04.1892.  She was the daughter of Stephen and Annie Gabriel and in 1901, Florence who was 8, and her family were living at Chard just over the Dorset border in Somerset.

 

 

 

2Q27

Stephen Peter Marshall Collett

Born on 07.07.1920

 

 

 

 

2P11

Mervyn Fred Matthew Collett was born at 7 Bath Street in Swindon on 29.09.1887 and he was barely one year old when his father William Collett died. 

 

Mervyn was three years old in 1891 while still living with his family at 7 Bath Street, while ten years later he was still attending school in Swindon at the age of thirteen.

 

During the next ten years he met Lily Thrush of 3 Hinton Road in Swindon, and on 16.07.1910 they were married in Swindon. 

 

Just over three month after they were married Lily presented her husband with the first of their two children.

 

 

 

This photograph of Mervyn was taken around 1910, perhaps even on the occasion of his wedding.

 

 

 

The couple initially settled in Swindon for perhaps just the first year of the marriage, and it was there that their first child was born.  This was confirmed by the April census of 1911 when the family of three was recorded as living at 14 Handel Street in Swindon.

 

 

 

The census return recorded that Mervyn and Lily had been married for less than one year and that both of them, and their five months old son, had been born in Swindon.  This would perhaps indicate that their son Frederick was a slightly premature ‘honeymoon baby’.

 

 

 

Mervyn was listed as being 23 and his occupation was that of a boiler-smith working for the Great Western Railway, while his wife was only twenty years old.  Not longer after this, Mervyn and his family left Swindon and followed his older brother Percy (above) to Plymouth, where the couple’s second child was born.

 

 

 

They lived at 35 Clarence Road in Plymouth until it was bombed in the blitz of 1943, following which the family were re-housed at 32 Clarence Road.

 

 

 

Mervyn died at Plymouth on 04.04.1951 of double pneumonia, while Lily, who was born at Swindon in 1891, died at Plymouth eleven years later on 17.08.1962.

 

 

 

2Q28

Fredrick Mervyn Collett

Born on 30.10.1910

 

2Q29

Maurice William Arthur Collett

Born on 10.09.1912

 

 

2P12

Ann M E Collett was born at Poulton in 1865 and was six years old in the Cirencester area census of 1871 when she was living with her parents and younger sister Martha (below).

 

 

 

By 1881 the family was living in Stroud where Ann was 15, and ten years later as Ann M E Collett she was 25 and still living within the Stroud census registration district in 1891.

 

 

 

In 1901 she was a seamstress and was still not married at the age of 35 and was living at Brimscombe to where her family had moved.

 

 

 

Ten years later in the census of 1911, Ann was still a spinster living at Brimscombe where she was recorded as Annie Collett aged 45.  The description of where she was living was ‘institution’ rather than ‘household’.

 

 

 

 

2P13

Martha Ellen Collett was born at Arlington in 1868 and in 1871 she was three years old and was living with her parents and older sister Ann (above) within the Cirencester registration district. 

 

 

 

By 1881 she was living with her family at Dark Mill in Stroud where she was aged 13 although her place of birth and that of her father were stated as Arlingham, which is on the east back of the River Severn south of Gloucester.

 

 

 

It is possible that she married before the 1891 Census as there was no record of a Martha Collett of the appropriate age.  However, there was a Martha Headlef aged 25 who was living at St Clement Danes in Hackney who was born at Arlingham.  There were no other people with the Headlef name in 1891 and by 1901 even Martha was missing from the census, as she was in 1911.

 

 

 

 

2P14

James Collett was born at Shorncote in 1872.  Sometime over the next few years his family moved to Stroud where James was 9 in 1881, and 19 in 1891.

 

 

 

By 1901 he was living at Brimscombe where he was a 29 year old stick worker, working with his sister Sarah (below).  The Dark Mill at Stroud, where the family was living in 1881 was known for making umbrellas from 1885 and the stick workers were an integral part of the process.

 

 

 

During the next ten years it would appear that James married Elizabeth and by April 1911 they were living at Stroud.  James of Shorncote was 39 and Elizabeth was 38, and living with them was James’ sister Sarah (below).

 

 

 

 

2P15

Sarah Collett was born at Kemble near Cirencester in 1875.  During the next couple of years her family moved to Stroud where Sarah was 6 in 1881, and 16 in 1891.

 

 

 

In 1901 she was living with her family in Brimscombe aged 26 and was a stick worker, like her brother James (above), employed in the manufacturing and production of umbrellas.

 

 

 

At the age of 36 Sarah Collett of Kemble was still a spinster and in 1911 she was living with her brother James and his wife at Stroud.

 

 

 

 

2P16

Rose Anna Collett was born at Rodborough near Stroud in 1877.  She was listed as aged 3 in the 1881 Census and was living at the family home in Dark Mill in Stroud.  By 1901 she was aged 23 unmarried and referred to as Rosanna and was living at the family home in Brimscombe.

 

 

 

 

2P17

Kate Collett was born at Gloucester in 1881 but after the census date.  In 1901 she was aged 21 and was employed as a domestic housemaid while still living with her family at Brimscombe.

 

 

 

 

2P18

Arthur Collett was born at Brimscombe in 1886.  In 1901 at the age of 15 Arthur was working as a pin worker while still living at the family home at Brimscombe.

 

 

 

By 1911 Arthur was 25 and was living and working at Stroud.

 

 

 

 

2P21

William Henry Collett was born at Paddington on 31.01.1869, the birth being registered at the Grays Inn Lane district of Middlesex.  His birth certificate confirmed that his parents were living at 28 Compton Street in St Pancras at the time.

 

 

 

Shortly after he was born his parents took him to live at Parry Sound in Ontario, Canada.  The tough and rugged lifestyle, which included trading with the local Indians to survive, probably was the reason why the family returned to England in 1883.

 

 

 

At the age of 25 William was living at Kensal Town where he married Ellen Caroline Harris on 14.01.1894 in the parish church of St Martin in Kentish Town.  His occupation at that time was described as a pianoforte maker and journeyman.  Ellen was aged 21 and was the daughter of Salvation Army captain and porter William Thomas Harris and his wife Ellen Francis, and had been born at St Pancras in 1874.

 

 

 

The witnesses at the ceremony were William’s brother Edmund Alfred Collett and Annie Harris who was most likely Ellen’s mother.  Three years later, at the birth of their third child, the family was living at 3 Hanover Street in Kentish Town, St Pancras, where William was working as a piano maker and journeyman.

 

 

 

The were still living at 3 Hanover Street for the birth of their first three children, but by the time of the birth of their daughter William and Ellen were living at 70 Carlton Road in Kentish Town.  However, later that same year, or early in 1901, the family moved again, this time to 4 Cleveland Villas in Willesdon.

 

 

 

And it was there that the family was living for the census at the end of March in 1901.  The census return listed the family as William H Collett 32 and an auctioneer’s saleroom porter, his wife Ellen 27 (both of them born at St Pancras), and their four children William 6 also born at St Pancras, John 5, Arthur 3, and Grace who was seven months old, all three born at Kentish Town.

 

 

 

During the next decade another two children were added to the family which, in April 1911 was living at 134 Fleet Road in Hampstead.  William Henry Collett was 42 and an auctioneer’s porter, and his wife Ellen C Collett was 38.  Their six children at that time were listed as William Alfred Collett 16, John Francis Collett 15, Arthur Thomas Collett 13, Grace Ellen Amelia Collett 10, Ernest Henry 7, and Albert Edward who was five years old.

 

 

 

Living with the family was William’s younger brother Francis Ernest Collett who was forty-one.  Four years later at the end of January 1915, when William’s eldest son was married, the occupation of William Henry Collett was given as being that of an auctioneer’s porter.

 

 

 

William and Ellen were living at 50 Lawn Road in Hampstead in 1916 where they received the sad news of the death of their son John Francis Collett who died at Duala in Cameroon during the First World War.

 

 

 

Lawn Road runs northwards off Haverstock Hill (A502) close to Southampton Road and Constantine Road where other members of the Collett family lived. 

 

 

 

It was also around this time that Ellen was looking after William’s nephew Reginald (Reg) Collett, following the death of the boy’s father Francis Ernest Collett during the year previous, and at a time when the boy’s mother had became mentally ill.

 

 

 

On the occasion of the marriage of his son Arthur Thomas in 1921, William’s occupation was that of house painter.  A year after, at the time of his daughter’s wedding in 1922, his occupation was once again stated as being that of an auctioneer’s porter, which is how he was remembered by his grandson. 

 

 

 

It is very likely that William and Ellen had more children that those listed below, and it is possible a son was born in 1914 who was the only member of the family in 1935 that was not married.  At that time William and Ellen were still living at 50 Lawn Road in Hampstead.

 

 

 

2Q30

William Alfred Collett

Born on 11.04.1894

 

2Q31

John Francis Collett

Born on 15.10.1895

 

2Q32

Arthur Thomas Collett

Born on 11.08.1897

 

2Q33

Grace Ellen Amelia Collett

Born on 08.12.1900

 

2Q34

Ernest Henry Collett

Born in 1903

 

2Q35

Albert Edward Collett

Born in 1905

 

 

 

 

2P22

Francis Ernest Collett was born at Parry Sound in Ontario in 1870.  He returned to England from Canada with his family in 1883 and in 1891 he was twenty years old and living in Kentish Town with his father Arthur James Collett and his thought to be second wife Rosetta.

 

 

 

No record of Francis has been found in the census of 1901, but by 1911 he was unmarried at the age of forty-one and was living with his brother William Henry Collett (above) at 50 Lawn Road in Hampstead.  It would appear that he did marry shortly after this and that the marriage produced a son.

 

 

 

At the outbreak of the Great War, Francis enlisted with the Royal Marines Light Infantry and was assigned to the battleship HMS Goliath.  Tragically, the ship was torpedoed by the Turkish destroyer Muavenet-I-Millet off De Tott’s Battery in the Dardanelles on 13th May 1915 with the loss of 570 men.

 

 

 

The name of Private PLY/10685 Frank Collett appears on the Plymouth Naval Memorial.  There is no reference to any next-of-kin, so it is possible that he had not married the mother of his son, and also that the son may have been born after he was killed.

 

 

 

Francis Ernest Collett died on 13.05.1915 and, with the mother of his child having become mentally ill following the birth of their son, coupled with the death of the child’s father, the child was taken into the care of his uncle William Henry Collett (above), the brother of Francis Ernest Collett.

 

 

 

2Q36

Reginald Collett

Born 1912-1915

 

 

 

 

2P23

Edmund Alfred Collett was born at Parry Sound in 1872.  He returned to England with his family in 1883.  Unlike other members of his family, no record of Edmund has been found in the London area in the census of 1891.

 

 

 

However, ten years later in March 1901, Edmund A Collett of Canada was twenty-nine years of age and was living in the St Andrews district of London, where he was employed as a draper’s assistant.

 

 

 

Four years later Edmund married Everell Williams in 1905.  Everell was an upholsterer and was five years older than Edmund, having been born at St Pancras in 1866.  The year after the couple were married Everell presented Edmund with their only child.

 

 

 

By April 1911 the family of three were living in Woolwich where Edmund Alfred Collett from Ontario was thirty-nine, his wife Everell was forty-four, and their son Arthur John Collett was five years old.

 

 

 

During their lives together, the couple lived along the south side of the River Thames at Woolwich, Erith and Dartford from where Edmund worked as a draper with his brother Herbert (below).

 

 

 

In his later life Edmund was a patient at Bexley Mental Hospital, and it was there that he lived for the last few years of his life.

 

 

 

2Q37

Arthur Collett

Born in 1906

 

 

 

 

2P24

Herbert Edward Collett was born at Parry Sound in 1875 but returned to England with his family in 1883.  By 1891 Herbert was not living with his family in Kentish Town, instead he was recorded in the census that year in the Chelsea area of London at the age of fifteen, perhaps attending school there.

 

 

 

Ten years later Herbert E Collett from Canada was twenty-three (sic) and was living and working in the Islington area of London, where his occupation was that of a draper’s assistant.

 

 

 

During the next decade Herbert worked at a draper’s shop with his brother Edmund Alfred Collett (above).  However, because of his views on trade unions, Herbert was dismissed from many jobs in London and eventually moved north to the Lake District where he met his future wife.

 

 

 

Herbert married (1) Florence Mary Darvell of Millom in Cumberland, at nearby Whicham in 1910.  On married the couple returned to live in London and in April 1911 they were living at 40 Raeburn Avenue in Dartford, the house named Parry Sound after the place where Herbert was born near Ontario.

 

 

 

The census return that year listed the childless couple as Herbert E Collett from Ontario aged thirty-five, and his wife Florence Mary Collett aged thirty-seven from Millom in Cumberland.

 

 

 

Florence died in 1934, following which Herbert married (2) Norah Elizabeth Stevenson, the daughter of the Dartford Congregational minister, but tragically he died in latter quarter of 1935.

 

 

 

2Q38

Harold Ernest Collett

Born in 1914

 

 

 

 

2P25

Eleanor M Collett was born at Parry Sound in 1877 and with the rest of her family returned to England in 1883.  In 1891 she was 13 and was living with her family in Kentish Town. 

 

 

 

Ten years later she had entered into domestic service and was living and working in the St Pancras area of London.  The census in 1901 listed her as Eleanor M Collett aged twenty-three who had been born in Canada.

 

 

 

At the end of July in 1900, and following the death of her mother during the previous year, Eleanor’s father Arthur James Collett married for a second time and, eighteen months later they took over the care of Eleanor’s baby, which they eventually formally adopted.

 

 

 

The child’s birth certificate confirmed that Eleanor was twenty-five and that she was living at the Hampstead Workhouse where she gave birth to her base-born daughter. 

 

 

 

Eleanor was still living in the Hampstead area in April 1911, when she was described simply as Eleanor Collett aged thirty-one (sic) from Ontario.  At that time, her place of residence was listed as an institution.  Sadly she only survived for another seven years when Eleanor M Collett died at Hampstead in 1918 at the age of forty-one.

 

 

 

2Q39

Ethel Maud Collett

Born on 08.01.1902

 

 

 

 

2P26

Grace Collett was born at Parry Sound in 1879 where she died on 07.05.1882.  Shortly after her death the rest of the family left Canada and returned to England.

 

 

 

 

2P27

Rose Collett was born at Kentish Town in London on 17.09.1883.  In 1891 she was seven years old and was living with her family in Kentish Town.  Ten years later she and her brother Cecil (below) were the only children still living with their father in Hampstead. 

 

 

 

Rose never married and in April 1911 she was still living with her father Arthur James Collett and his second wife Harriet.  Rose Collett was 27 and at some time during her life she worked at Dickens & Jones.

 

 

 

 

2P28

Cecil James Collett was born at Kentish Town in London on 24.04.1885 and he was five years old in 1891 when he was listed as Samuel Collett living with his family in Kentish Town. 

 

 

 

By 1901 he and his sister Rose (above) were the only children still living with Arthur James Collett and his new wife Harriet.  On that occasion the family was living in Hampstead where Cecil J Collett was 15 and working as a corn handler’s assistant.

 

 

 

Cecil James Collett married Elizabeth Huggins in 1910.  A few months later the couple were recorded in the April census of 1911 as living in the St Pancras area as Cecil James Collett aged 25 and his wife Elizabeth Emeline Collett who was twenty-eight.

 

 

 

It was Elizabeth who, on 1st April 1916, registered the death of her father-in-law Arthur James Collett (Ref. 2O30) who lived at 70 Constantine Road opposite Hampstead Heath railway station.  At that time the address for daughter-in-law ‘E E Collett’ was confirmed as 58 Southampton Road in Hampstead.

 

 

 

It may be of interest to know that Southampton Street was located near to both Constantine Road and Lawn Road where various members of the Collett family lived

 

 

 

2Q40

Arthur Collett

Born after 2nd April 1911; died in 1918

 

 

 

 

2P29

Alfred Edward Hersey Collett was born at Parry Sound on 20.06.1877.  He was a fur trader and he married Sybil Ellis on 10.12.1902.  In the years after they were married they lived at North Bay but by 1936 the couple were living at Pine Grove in Ontario.  The couple both died a few months apart in 1957.

 

 

 

2Q41

Ruth Alfreda Beatson Collett

Born on 23.06.1906

 

2Q42

Lilian Jane Rosalie Collett

Born on 28.09.1909

 

2Q43

Thomas Ernest Bertrand Collett

Born on 10.12.1910

 

 

 

 

2P30

Ernest Henry John Collett was born at Parry Sound on 16.09.1879.  He married Annie May Gillespie in 1901 and he died in 1961.

 

 

 

2Q44

Reta May Collett

Born on 11.08.1902

 

2Q45

Gerald Sherman James Collett

Born in 1903

 

2Q46

John Aubrey Beresford Collett

Born on 12.11.1906

 

2Q47

Ivan Bertrand Collett

Born in 1908

 

 

 

 

2P31

Bertrand Oswald Mawbey Collett was born at Parry Sound on 16.09.1881.  He married Helen Elma Fieldhouse on 05.08.1908 and he died in 1945.

 

 

 

 

2P32

Lillian Hattie Amelia Collett was born at Parry Sound in 1883.  She married Thomas Hemsworth in 1907 and she died in 1961.

 

 

 

 

2P33

Rosalie Gertrude Helena Collett was born at Parry Sound in 1885.  She married Melford Proctor in 1909 and she died in 1946.

 

 

 

 

2P34

Alice Mawbey Collett was born on 04.12.1876 at 8 Pembroke Street in Islington and she died on 07.03.1878 at 14 Pembroke Street in Islington.

 

 

 

 

2P35

Ernest Henry Collett was born at 14 Pembroke Street in Islington on 06.05.1878, the eldest child of Mawbey Ernest Collett and his first wife Elizabeth Alice Stare.  He was two years old in 1881 when he and his younger brother Herbert (below) were living with their parents at 1 Hawley Road in St Pancras. Ten years later, when he was 12, he was recorded in error as Ernest F Collett, while living with his family within the Pancras & Kentish Town area of London.

 

 

 

He was still living in the St Pancras area in March 1901, at the age of 22, and just one year later, while still in St Pancras he married Rose Elizabeth Rogers on 05.04.1902.  The marriage produced four children for the couple over the next seven years, and by April 1911 the family was living in Walthamstow where the couple’s daughter Edith had been born just eight months earlier.  Ernest was 32, his wife Rose was 31, and their three sons were Ernest who was eight, Reginald who was six, and Sidney who was three.  No second names were given in the census.

 

 

 

At some time during his life Ernest was a constable with the Metropolitan Police, although an account given by his half brother the Rev. Sidney Collett (below), who was a Titanic survivor, stated that he was working for an electrical company in England around the time of the ship’s disastrous maiden voyage in 1912.  His wife Rose Elizabeth Rogers was born in 1880 and she died in 1955, ten years after Ernest had passed away on 28.05.1945.

 

 

 

2Q48

Ernest Joseph Collett

Born on 23.01.1903

 

2Q49

Reginald George Collett

Born in 1905

 

2Q50

Sidney John Percy Collett

Born on 09.03.1908

 

2Q51

Edith Rose Elizabeth Collett

Born on 08.07.1910

 

 

 

 

2P36

Herbert Victor Collett was born at 10 Kentish Town Road on 18.07.1879 and was baptised on 04.12.1879 when he was living with his family at 76 Beaverbrook Road in Tufnell Park.  In 1881 he and his family were living at 1 Hawley Road in St Pancras, where Herbert was recorded as being one year old.  It was as Herbert V Collett, age 11, that he was recorded in the next census in 1891, when his family was still living within the Pancras & Kentish Town area of London.

 

 

 

Herbert Victor Collett was a cheesemonger’s assistant on leaving school, but tragically he died prematurely on 05.11.1896 when he was only seventeen years old, and was buried at Finchley.

 

 

 

 

2P37

William Melville Collett was born at Hawley Villa, 1 Hawley Road in Kentish Town on 04.12.1881.  In the census of 1891 he was incorrectly listed with his family in the Pancras & Kentish Town census return as William N Collett, age nine years.  Nearly seven years later, and just three months after his sixteenth birthday, William died at 68 St John Road in Upper Holloway on 13.03.1908 and was buried at Finchley Cemetery.  In his short life since leaving school, he had worked as a designer and a painter on silk.

 

 

 

 

2P38

Harold John Collett was born at 88 St Johns Road in Upper Holloway on 10.03.1883, and was eight years old in the Pancras & Kentish Town census of 1891, by which time his mother had died and his father had re-married.  Upon leaving school Harold joined the Royal Navy, and by the time of the next census in 1901 he was stationed at Plymouth.  The census return on that occasion recorded him as Harold John Collett from St Pancras who was an ordinary navy man at the age of 18.

 

 

 

He later emigrated to Canada, where he was a driver on the Canadian Pacific Railway.  This very likely happened during the first ten years of the new century, since he would appear to have left England by the time of the census in 1911.  He is known to have married and lived in Toronto with his wife and three children.  He eventually had nine grandchildren.

 

 

 

 

2P39

Percy Alexander Collett was born at 5 Estelle Road in Hampstead on 06.10.1884, the son of Mawbey Ernest Collett and his first wife Elizabeth Alice Stare, who had died when he was just eleven days old.  He was seven years old in the Kentish Town census of 1891 when he was living with his father and his stepmother Ann, but by 1901, at the age of 16, Percy A Collett from Hampstead was working as a waiter in the Epsom area of Surrey.  It would appear that he later joined his parents in America, where he married Margaret Acheson with whom he had a son, who was very likely born in the USA.

 

 

 

The only other known fact about him is that it was in America that Percy Alexander Collett later died.

 

 

 

2Q52

Ernest John Collett

Date of birth unknown

 

 

 

 

2P40

Thomas Alfred Fletcher Collett was born 5 Estelle Road in Hampstead on 30.01.1886, the first child born to Mawbey Ernest Collett by his second wife Ann Pinfold.  Thomas A F Collett was five years old in 1891 when living with his parents in the Pancras & Kentish Town area of London.  Ten years later, in 1901 when his father was away in Devon, Thomas Collett was 15 years old and was living with his mother and his four younger siblings at 68 St Johns Road in Islington, part of Upper Holloway.

 

 

 

By that time in his life he was employed as a clerk, perhaps even in his father’s coach-building and ironmonger company of Collett & Co.  On that occasion in the census return for 1901, his place of birth was recorded as Gospel Oak, like that of his brother and two sisters (below).

 

 

 

He emigrated to America with his parents in 1910 and was educated at Columbia University, where he took his Master Degree.  At the time his younger brother Sidney was a passenger on the ill-fated Titanic, Thomas was living in Syracuse, where he was attending the College of Liberal Arts at the University there.  He became a minister in the Episcopalian Church of America and died in New York on 16.08.1964.  He was married with two daughters.

 

 

 

2Q53

Joan Collett

Date of birth unknown

 

2Q54

Grace Collett

Date of birth unknown

 

 

 

 

2P41

Sidney Clarence Stuart Collett was born at 5 Estelle Road in Hampstead on 08.01.1887, the son of Mawbey Ernest Collett and his second wife Ann Pinfold.  It was as Sydney C S Collett that he was recorded with his family in the census of 1891 when he was three years old and living in the Pancras & Kentish Town district of London.  By March 1901 he and his mother Ann and his four siblings were living at 68 St Johns Road in Islington when, as simply Sidney Collett, he was listed in the census as being aged 13, with no occupation.  A sometime in his youth, presumably during the first decade of the new century he spent time living on Guernsey with an uncle, where he was known as the boy preacher.

 

 

 

Although he was always recorded under first forename, Sidney was more commonly referred to as Stuart within his family, to avoid any confusion with another relative by the name of Sidney Collett.  Just over nine years after the census in 1901 his parents sailed to America in 1910, following the sale of the family business Collett & Co and his father’s retirement at the age of sixty.

 

 

 

It was during the previous year, in 1909 that he was ordained and was henceforth referred to as the Reverend Sidney Collett.  He was now ready to follow his parents to the United States and two years after they had sailed to America he purchased a second class ticket to New York on the maiden voyage of the unsinkable RMS Titanic.  The ticket cost him £10 10 shillings, and he sailed out of Southampton on Wednesday 10th April 1912, his final destination being Port Byron in New York State where his parents had settled.

 

 

 

Thankfully he was one of the survivors rescued from the freezing cold waters by the ship Carpathia, when the Titanic sank in mid-Atlantic in the early hours of the fifteenth of April.  This photograph of Stuart was taken on board the Carpathia.  Three days later, on Thursday 18th April, the Carpathia docked at New York’s Pier 54 with 706 survivors from a total of 2,223 passengers and crew.

 

A newspaper account of the tragedy reported that “The Rev. Sidney Collett arrived at the home of his parents after having been rescued from the Titanic of the White Star Line which was lost at sea.  His parents, Rev. & Mrs Mawbey E Collett of North Main Street, had gone to Syracuse to meet him and he had showed signs of tiredness and careworn, not being fully recovered from his terrible experience”.

 

 

 

The local newspaper in Port Byron, The Daily Advertiser, also covered the story by publishing an interview with Sidney on 23rd April 1912 under the headline ‘Port Byron survivor of the Titanic wreck’.  Sidney recalled “The first boats carried men.  Several boats had been lowered full of men, among them the President of the America Line, Joseph Bruce Ismay, who was also the Chairman and Managing Director of the White Star Line.  The officers were just lowering boat number 9, the third from the last to be put off.  The ladies stepped into the boat, then the officer, with drawn revolver, said to me ‘Well, what of you, where are you going?’ To which I replied that I have these young ladies in my charge and felt it my duty to take care of them.  ‘Get in’ said the officer and a moment later the boat was lowered.  A fright for those in small boats.”

 

 

 

“After we had floated for an hour or more there came our first real scare for our own safety.  All about us we could see the backs of monster fish, their shiny skins or scales glimmering grew in the moonlight.  They were terrible looking monsters and we feared that they would swim under our boats and upset them, but they did not.  It was a time when we were close to our Maker.  I prayed constantly from the time our boat struck the iceberg until I reached New York.  Never was there a wireless message that went so quickly and straight as my prayers to the throne of God.  Never will I forget those horrible hours after the sinking of the ship.  It was maddening. Minutes seemed like hours and hours like days.”

 

 

 

A much more detailed account of the story can be found in Appendix One at the end of this file, which provides a great deal of addition information about Sidney and his immediate family.

 

 

 

At some later time in his life he married Ruth, and whether this was before or after he returned to London is not yet known.  However, it is known that Sidney Clarence Stuart Collett died on 6th May 1941, following which he was buried at Hendon Cemetery on 13th May.  No headstone marks the grave, but a notice in The Times on 10th May read as follows.  On May 6, 1941. Sidney Collett beloved husband of Ruth Collett passed peacefully away.  Memorial service at Talbot Tabernacle in Bayswater, London on May 13 at 2.30. Interment Hendon Cemetery at 3.30.”

 

 

 

 

2P42

Violet Amelia Collett was born at 5 Estelle Road in Hampstead on 15.12.1888, and was two years old in the census of 1891.  By the time of the census in 1901 she was 12, at which time she and her family, minus her father, was living at 68 St Johns Road in Islington.  She later emigrated to America with her parents in 1910, and in 1912 she was at Rochester with her two sisters (below) getting ready to start college.  She later married John Van der Kolk.  The marriage produced twin sons for the couple, neither of whom survived, and two daughters; Jean Van der Kolk, who married Mister McCall, and Lily Van der Kolk, who married Richard Cowles.

 

 

 

 

2P43

Daisy Ann Collett was born at 5 Estelle Road in Hampstead on 17.02.1891, and was six weeks old in the census of 1891.  Ten years later she and her mother and her four siblings were living in the Upper Holloway area of Islington at 68 St Johns Road.  It was nine years later, and following the sale of her father’s business, Collett & Co, that Daisy emigrated to America with her parents in 1910.  In April 1912 when the Port Byron newspapers were running stories about her older brother Sidney (above) on how he survived the sinking of the Titanic, Daisy and her two sisters were at Rochester preparing for college.  The only other known detail about her is that Daisy Ann Collett died in America during 1953.

 

 

 

 

2P44

Lily Elizabeth Collett was born at 5 Estelle Road in Hampstead on 24.04.1892, the youngest child of Mawbey Ernest Collett and his second wife Ann Pinfold.  Within the census return for the family in March 1901, Lily was recorded as ‘Lilly Collett’ aged eight years, living at 68 St Johns Road in Islington, who had been born at Gospel Oak like her four older siblings, rather than Hampstead.  When Lily was 18, she, together with other members of her family including her parents, emigrated to America in June 1910 on board the Steam Ship SS Teutonic. 

 

 

 

And it was there, in America in 1912, that Lily was living with her two sisters at Rochester just prior to them entering college.  Lily Elizabeth Collett later married to become (1) Lily Elizabeth Collins, and after that (2) Lily Elizabeth Williams.

 

 

 

 

2P45

Elizabeth Collett, who was referred to as Bess, was born in Hammersmith in London on 29.10.1879.  Two years later she was listed as living with her parents at 32 Oxford Gardens in Kensington.  No record of her or her large family has been found anywhere in the UK at the time of the 1891 census.

 

 

 

In the mid-1890s her mother died, so just after the turn of the century she was living with her widowed father at 86 Leathwaite Road in Clapham from where she was working as a GPO Clerk at a local branch of general post office.  

 

 

 

Sometime after the first quarter of 1901 when she was just twenty-one, her father Percy Collett died leaving Elizabeth as his eldest daughter, supported by her brother Algernon (below), to look after the younger children of the family.

 

 

 

Around 1909 Elizabeth married William Frederick Ford Arnold at St Paul’s Church in Hammersmith.  William was born at Southwark in 1870 and at the turn of the century he was a book binder living in Battersea.  He later became a dealer in fine art and at the time of their wedding he was living at 42 St Dunstan’s Road, opposite Charing Cross Hospital.

 

 

 

Shortly after they were married Elizabeth and William left London and moved north to live at Newcastle-upon-Tyne where their two children were born and where William opened a picture gallery.  By April 1911 the marriage had produced the first of the couple’s two children.

 

 

 

The census return that year confirmed that Elizabeth Arnold of London was 31 and that her husband William Frederick Ford Arnold of London was 41.